...but I'll make an exception in this case. It gives me great joy to be chastised by someone so ignorant. From the guy who runs Detroitiscrap.com...
You try and blame ME for alienating Detroit? Are you fucking serious?Well, I wasn't blaming YOU personally. Just people LIKE you. There are many. Get over yourself.
I report the fucking news the way it is. Nothing more. I don't make shit up, I don't fabricate stories, I don't destroy anything.
The racist attitudes of blacks have destroyed detroit, that along with their crime, drugs, and abuse of public welfare.
Nice try asshole.
It would be great if certain people opened up a book and poked around in some history once in a while, you find out the most interesting things. Though there are many books that focus on urban decline, I recommend Thomas Sugrue's "The Origins of the Urban Crisis: Race and Inequality in Postwar Detroit"(1996, Princeton Classic Edition, 2005). He's the most prominent Detroit historian around. Though painted in very wide brush strokes, Detroit's decline can be summarized in three major steps:- De-industrialization. Detroit was once a great city, and that was because of a booming auto industry, which employed many people. Come the 1950s, in an attempt to reduce labor costs, auto jobs were progressively outsourced south to Ohio and Indiana, then further, where labor was cheaper. This sudden shift left many in Detroit jobless.
- Racial discrimination in the workplace. Guess who was to be fired first during this outsourcing. This was before the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Think that sudden loss of jobs for a whole community of people, right at once, might have some thing to do with current economic conditions among Blacks in Detroit?
- Residential Segregation. New neighborhoods were being created northward from the city to support the influx of returning WWII veterans. Whites were pressured in to moving to these new neighborhoods by greedy real estate agents under fear that the blacks were moving in to their current neighborhoods. This is a form of redlining, a practice that is now obviously illegal. This is a large part of why the Detroit region is the most racially polarized in the country.
- Coleman Young certainly influenced this too, and I won't deny that. The great white flight was the culmination of 25 years redlining, and would not have occurred had this practice not set precedent.
- Hundreds of years of slavery.
- The Civil Rights Act was only instituted 44 years ago, and equality is only now STARTING to appear. Whites had a thousand year head start in the Western world.
- Gentrification.
- Weak education through inner city schools.
- 1 in 3 black men end up in jail at some point in their lives through systematic racism, leaving less stable male role models in the house hold.
- At least with Detroit- practically zero adequate public transportation.
- No, the SMART bus does not make it to where most new job growth is.
- Crack Cocaine mandatory minimum sentencing in the 1980s that directly targeted inner city blacks.
- Don't you think it's funny that 5 grams of crack gets you the same sentence as 500 grams of cocaine? I don't even know how much crack 500 grams of coke makes, but I'm pretty sure it's a hell of a lot more than 5 grams. Who's got half a key of coke? I bet he's probably the same color as that bag of powder he has
So yes, I guess I do, at least in part, blame YOU, with capital letters. If you took all that time and energy running your site, and instead of bitching about black Detroiters "chimping out," you tried to figure ways to fix the city, we'd be in a lot better shape. But then you could only complain about rural white Americans' "crime, drugs, and abuse of public welfare," and I know that just doesn't sit well with ignorant racism.
ON another note, DEMF was off the hook this year. Girltalk, Cool Kids, and Moby were the highlights for me. Excellent after parties. I can't wait for the riverfront air race this weekend. Go Pistons. Go Wings. Detroit is being put on the map like none other.
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Really? I mean, REALLY? Okay, Detroitiscrap.com, by virtue of you calling your website "detroitiscrap", you are promoting the very core of the problem that Detroit faces- which is xenophobia from people like you. You are exactly the kind of person who makes us look bad, and makes every single person look bad who has made an effort to improve the city. There have been hundreds of initatives to improve the quality of life in the city, and you go and shoot down the morale of the people who are working so hard. You talk about reverse racism? What do you expect from a community who has nothing else to live for besides solidarity??? Are you not aware of Coleman Young's politics, even though some call him a divider, there was no one else who you can attribute the re-"communitization" of Detroit to, and reinventing the identity of a black community.
you'd think that the age old saying would have some impact on your ridiculous rantings, but truly, if you DONT have anything nice to say, DON'T FUCKING TALK, because no one wants to hear you bitch about how much something sucks when you don't even have the balls to come out and tell us how to improve it- on your terms. You are a coward, and proof of that is the way you reacted to my friend's commentary. Do you really need to swear in every sentence? Are you THAT mad that someone is defending the City of Detroit? If so, it sounds like you need to go back and do some searching on your own insecurity and racism, which is blatantly obvious to everyone else except you.
You minimize the efforts that suburbanites have made to help Detroiters reinvent their city. Apparently you do not understand how difficult of a job this is, for us to break down the barriers of all the stuff you bitch about and prove to our fellow Michiganders that we are IN THIS TOGETHER, no matter how scared you are of people who don't look like you.
To reiterate what dustin said, GET OVER YOURSELF.
Your blindingly ignorant liberal bullshit is astounding no matter how many times I am subjected to it's idiocy.
On thomas sugrue: I believe him to be a jew. Jewish neo-marxist intellectualist theory on social issues is well documented as being skewed by ideology rather than fact or common sense. If he is not a jew he is certainly of the jewish installed neo marxist and zionist school of thought prevalent within every university in this country.
Try Dr. Kevin Macdonald as an author of the source for my above statement on Jewish intellectualism in America.
For the sake of argument...
De-industrialization:
A total bullshit theory to try and explain urban decay. There are more White People living in the suburbs NOW who make a living because of the city center, than there were living in the city back then.
How come hundreds of thousands of people commute into Detroit to work? You don't think these people would enjoy living a few minutes from work? White people moved out when blacks moved in, not because we're racist, but because blacks ruined their neighborhoods.
Racial Discrimination in the Workplace:
Whitey's fault again eh? Blacks are over represented in auto unions and with affirmative action and equal opportunity in place this argument is hardly valid at this point in time. Racial discrimination in the work place, whether valid or not, hasn't been an issue in Detroit for at least 30 years.
Residential Segregation:
Blacks were forced to destroy their own communities because it was hard for them to get out of them? What kind of logic is that?
It sounds almost as if you're saying that it takes White people to make a community a decent place to live....sounds kind of racist to me.
Even assuming this was a valid issue, it certainly hasn't been for many years now.
Slavery:
There isn't a single black humanoid alive that was a victim of slavery. In fact I would say that there are millions of White americans living in this country who were worse off than slaves. Slaves had guaranteed housing, guaranteed food, schooling in some situations, certainly more than a lot of white americans were guaranteed.
Slavery is a liberal bullshit cop-out...every race has been enslaved...every race has enslaved.
Gentrification:
Ever heard of section 8? Gentrification my ass.
Weak education:
The schools weren't weak until blacks started running them.
1 in 3 black men end up in jail:
And this is because blacks are naturally criminals which is why whites have a hard time living around them.
practically zero adequate public transportation:
You're really reaching now. I've worked closely with the recipients of welfare and section 8 and every single one of them had at least one working automobile.
Crack Cocaine mandatory minimum sentencing:
So it's the justice system's fault for trying to enforce the law? Come on...give me a fucking break. The best place to be arrested for drugs is in an inner-city area because the sentences are short and the judges are lenient....ask any criminal and they'll tell you that. Once again it's the white man's fault for punishing criminal behavior. This is an absolutely ludicrous argument.
hahahahaha, then why on earth do you bother responding if you find it so ludicrous???
I am curious chef of what story you can cook up for the destruction of places like Gary, Indiana or Oakland, California; or better yet, Harare, Zimbabwe and Johannesburg, South Africa since they ceded their White rule to the savages. None of these places had any industries that moved out so what is the cause of their demise? They all, as Detroit, were once great safe cities to live in. Your political science and public administration background should have an answer.
And a correction for you here, your statement: "Whites had a thousand year head start in the Western world." is total bullshit!
Whites did not have a "head Start" WE TOOK THE LEAD!
And Anna and Dustin it is not your place to Re-invent the city, It worked fine once before and was great but has been re-invented to a third world cesspool.
The detroitiscrap site is fantastic. I live in Mass, and there is only one small area in a city near me with a black population, and sure enough homes are boarded up, burnt down and crime is huge there.
It's almost funny to hear self-hating whites come up with reasons for the "urban decay" that follows blacks everywhere they go on the planet.
Almost makes me want to drag people like "Progressive Chef" into the blackest neighborhood I can find and let him spend a weekend with his friends.
I'm sure you love the all the diverse cultures so when you make excuses for blacks think about thes examples Sixty years ago jews emerged from concentration camps came to america and prospered within a generation. The same can be said for Cubans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Vietnamese. So what in the name of your esteemed job at a public university do you think is the reasons blacks have been stuck in the mud for 160 plus years? I would say in this country the problem is one of illegitamacy. Mr. social scientist, turn on the radio and listen to some jig music and you will find it is designed to facilitate their breeding. Illegitimacy seems like a good explanation until you look at Africa and then it seems that maybe blacks are just of a lower level. I mean blacks there have yet to embrace the technology of the wheel as witnessed by the women who carry jugs on their heads. by the way it then becomes the job of lackeys like yourself to polisdh the turd by explaining such backwardness as "culture and diversity." So go on with your bad self Progressive Chef. Serve up some more shit. Just stay out of Detroit lest you become an article on Detroit is Crap.com.
"Fiscally, they comprise the same percentage of those receiving welfare as blacks."
And how many more whites are there than blacks?
I think the people who defend this city never actually live it. Try walking around even the 'safe' areas everyday and have blacks try to start fights with you, insult you, all when you don't even look at them. These are the stupidest people on earth. You just drive everywhere and avoid dealing with the people who actually live here. Try riding the fucking bus and listen to some ignorant black spew racist bullshit and not even the driver says anything to him. I live and know this city more than any of you, so you can go fuck yourselves. Defend the people that hate you all you want.
It's as simple as this: name one place - a city, a country, anywhere, that is majority black or black controlled that isn't a cesspool of crime and poverty. Name one. Good luck.
Black culture is poisonous, rewarding and encouraging illiteracy, illegitimacy and crime. Until that's addressed, all the liberal platitudes in the world are only obfuscating reality.
I'm quite sure that not a single one of you has ever lived in detroit, therefore, your complaints are invalid based on the fact that you continue to whine and bitch but take no action. constructive criticism is one thing, but its entirely another to scapegoat welfare, homelessness, and economic instability by claiming reverse racism. without going into detail, a number of us work every day to keep the city alive and full of culture. you think we couldn't last a weekend in detroit? thats funny, we've lasted twenty-some years there so far, and we're still here, thanks.
A bunch of them do live in Detroit
With the high crime stats there it will be your time soon Anna
In the meantime, open your mouth and make me some money!
Chef...you're welcome for the most blog traffic you've ever had.
Hear, hear. Well said, Dustin. As far as the rest of these people go... eh. Nothing new, surprising, original, eloquent, insightful, or even true. Obviously the guy who runs the website is angry and hateful, exactly the kind of person I never plan on having any semblance of "respectful, intelligent debate" with.
WRONGO Amma! I live in Detroit, have all my life, so I talk from experience. You may be right about others but I am no outsider.
I am still waiting for the answers to my questions from Dustin. I take it he is busy. Hopefully he will answer me soon.
But YOU Dear! Big city babe! Where do you live? Bloomfield Hills? Southgate? Grosse Pointe? Royal Oak maybe?
Tell me baby.
Crack Cocaine mandatory minimum sentencing in the 1980s that directly targeted inner city blacks.
Reasonably speaking, just about no one is being forced to use drugs. Given the penalties for using crack cocaine are much greater than oher drugs, then stop using crack. Better yet, stop doing drugs altogether. That would solve much of the problem with large numbers of blacks in prison.
I blame a government that imposed centuries of slavery ...
But had there been no African slave trade, then there would be no black Americans (or at least much smaller numbers). Would your average black American really be that much more happy living in the Congo, Sudan or Zimbabwe today? Care to talk about the disaster of majority rule in these countries?
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